Are You Too Lazy To Live In Canada?
September 16, 2009
My grandfather came over from Ireland to find work, when he was about 14 years old. Ireland wasn’t a million miles away from England but moving to another country was different then.
You couldn’t hop on a plane, if you felt like going home to visit and snail mail was the only way to stay in touch with family and friends.
Would be immigrants have it much easier now. We can use the Internet to research any country we fancy moving to. Staying in touch with people back home is easy, using social networking and Skype. And a plane ticket home isn’t too expensive, from most parts of the world.
Canada Could Be Cool
Ok – we all know Canada is cool. In fact, for several months a year, most of the country is bloody freezing. But that doesn’t stop around half a million people a year from immigrating to Canada.
In 2008 alone, Canada accepted 247,202 permanent residents, 193,061 temporary workers and 79,459 students. But will all those people stick it out, or are some of them too lazy to live in Canada?
If Madonna Says We’re Lazy We Must Be Right?
Many Canadian workers get as little as two weeks annual leave and ten public holidays. I’m betting most European immigrants would collapse from exhaustion if they got so little time off. Madonna didn’t call the British lazy for nothing – I’m guessing she was pissed off because she had to pay her staff over here a minimum of 20 days holiday per year.
And she probably won’t be moving to Portugal, or Austria anytime soon, as she’d have to fork out for 35 days paid holiday a year.
The average US worker would cope well in Canada. According to this report, America is the “no vacation nation”, with the average employee receiving 9 days paid leave and six days public holiday per year.
Of course nobody wants to be the average anything and if you want your Canadian employer to give you more paid leave, you negotiate, like you’d do for anything else in life.
Just Make Sure You’ve Got A Decent Shovel
Snow shovelling is another bit of hard graft that you’ll need to get used to in Canada. Most parts of Canada get more than their fair share of snow.
So you can expect to spend a lot of time shovelling snow, to get your car our of the drive each morning. But did you know that by law, you also have to clear the snow from the pavement outside your house?
If you’re too lazy to do all that – don’t let it put you off immigrating to Canada. Either live in an apartment and take public transport to work, or move to Vancouver, where the winters are mild.
Working In Canada Might Make You Feel Like A Teenager Again
You may not land the type of job you’re accustomed to, as soon as you land in Canada. Many employers want you to gain “Canadian Experience” before they’ll take you on. So, if you waited on tables, or did some other crummy job while you were in school, you might find yourself feeling like a teenager again.
I think the key is to be prepared. If you’re happy to do this type of job initially and you see it as part of your new Canadian adventure, you’ll probably do fine. Most folk I’ve spoken to, who had to get Canadian experience wound up getting great jobs within a year.
What are the working conditions like where you live? Would you be tempted to move to another country to improve your life, or do some places sound too much like hard work?
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Banff National Park by Mark Woodbury
Snow Shovelling In Canada by Mike Babcock
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Hi Cath,
I may be too lazy to live in Canada, especially with the amount of snow and shoveling going on, or maybe I’m approaching an age where I wouldn’t want to deal with the long months of winter weather.
I grew up in the northern parts of the US where winters are very cold and lots of snow shoveling, but eventually moved to Texas, where we experience very mild winters (except for an occasional ice storm).
I think if we were to move anywhere and leave Texas, we would most likely move to the Chicago area where my grown kids live. We would get used to the winters and cold weather a lot easier knowing we could get the kids to shovel snow for us.
Getting older has its perks. hehehe
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We have a work ethic here in Spain that truly reflects that we believe we work to live. We have a minimum of 30 days paid leave plus 13 public holidays, making a total of 43 days off a year. I love it!
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Hi Cath, Work and vacation days aside, you’d better be ready to shovel snow. I was in Montreal once during a blizzard and never saw anything like it. (I live in Chicago, which is not exactly known for mild winters.)
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Yeah, Im too lazy to live in Canada. Don’t think I would ever even consider it because of the weather. I like to visit though. The landscapes are so beautiful.
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Hi Cath – Well, I can see Canada from my house!
You’re right, snow-shoveling is not fun. That is why the snowblower was invented, or for the truly faint of heart, the hired plow.
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Interesting post! Not exactly what I expect from your blog, but in this case, I can appreciate the variety
One of the reasons I like being an entrepreneur is that I can set my own hours and not have to worry about the “average”. Of course, being American, 43 days off a year is CRAZY…what would I do with myself?
(Knowing me…I’d probably work!!)
For me, it’s really all about enjoying what you do, and I really enjoy what I do…so working isn’t a chore for me.
-Erica
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I’m pretty sure Canada would be way too cold for me.
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The lack of vacation days I can manage, since I’ve never worked anywhere other than in the U.S. I’ve never done any snow shoveling though.
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The snow is (surprisingly) the easy part – you buy a snowblower, and a good set of winter tires for your car.
Oh, and make sure your car has a block heater to keep the engine from freezing solid when it is -40 in February.
The hard part (for me, having seen 39 winters) is getting up when it is dark and -40 to go to work, and then coming home from work when it is almost dark.
You just feel like standing outside in the sunshine on the weekends to absorb some light!!!
For jobs – see if you can find a company that specializes in placing immigrants with skills.
I don’t know the names of any (well, because I live here, I didn’t have to!) but I am sure they exist. I have found there are similar companies in New Zealand (because as you know, I am looking to *escape* the Canadian snow).
I’ll sell you my snowblower and winter tires…
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Hi Lin – I could imagine you feeling cold moving from Texas to most places. Chicago is supposed to be lovely though.
Mike – 43 days is awesome. I can’t imagine ever getting fluent enough in Spanish to live there though.
Hi Brad – I heard that Montreal can get pretty bad. Chicago is not too far from Ontario at all – I heard that you get a lot of wind.
Hi Brandon – The scenery does look awesome – especially in the Banff/Jasper area.
Hi Betsy – I looked you up on Google maps, so I know you’re not too far away. I’ve heard of snowblowers but not seen one before. I wonder if they melt the snow, or simply blow it somewhere else?
Hi Erica – I’ve done a few immigration posts over the last 18 months or so but admittedly, this one is a little different.
As you say though – when you work for yourself – where you live makes no difference to how much vacation time you take. And when you enjoy what you do – most days feel like a holiday.
Hi Vered – I’m betting it would. I remember you posting a pic wearing a t-shirt in February. There’s no way you’d be able to do that in Canada.
Hi Kelvin – I didn’t think there would be much call for snow shovelling in LA. I guess the sunshine on your days off must make up a little for the lack of paid leave.
Hi Brett – You’re on – I don’t think you’ll be needing those tyres or blower in New Zealand.
We have the same problem over here with dark days. Earlier this year, I bought a lightbox. It gives you the same amount of “sunlight” as a sunny spring day. Of course, it isn’t as good as the real thing but it really helps when the real sun isn’t around.
Canada looks like a great place to visit and I adore Canadians – find them very similar to Aussies actually – but I couldn’t cope with the cold. It would kill me to live there! And two weeks annual leave? That’s terrible. How are you supposed to stay sane and have a life when you only get 14 days a year to relax?
The older I get, the more I think I’m quite happy to leave Australia as my place of residence. I’ll just travel the other parts of the world.
So, does this mean Canada is where you’re going?
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Hi Cath,
I thought about purchasing a lightbox. I think I’d rather live where I don’t need one and buy a “snowbox” for those rare occasions when I feel the need for winter
But seriously you can cope with it – a good set of friends helps.
The thing that would help most actually in my town – and the thing sadly lacking – is a REAL pub, with a fireplace and some good music.
(Oh, and good beer too.)
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Canada DOES have mooses (which is a very good thing indeed!).
But besides that, I’ll have to agree…it’s just too cold for me.
I love where I currently live – for the most part, it’s very decent non-extreme weather each day.
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Hm. Not sure if this is a post to bash Canada or to highlight its good stuff:
4 distinct seasons: We like all of them
Humanitarian mindset: We typically take care of people in Canada
Free health care: No bankruptcies, nice.
Paid maternity/child-care leave: Both dads and mums can take time off to be with a baby
Accepting mindset: Same-sex couples are fine, so are different religious views and racism is low
Government programs: Good help and assistance for small business startups
Decent minimum wage: No $5 an hour here
Equalitarian leadership: We do a good job at working on women having the same rights as men
Low tuition fees and good subsidies: Kids get educations around here
Bilingualism: Two languages equals more opportunities
Mosaic cultures: No one has to blend in and lose their roots, history or identity
There are lots of other good things about Canada, but these are a few I can think of off the top of my head. Personally, I love living here and wouldn’t want to live elsewhere.
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Madonna has never struck me as someone who did a lot of research.
I thought you lived in the Olde Country, not Canada. I considered moving to Canada when George W. Bush got elected, but I’ve lived in Michigan and did not like the idea of so much winter. People with fibromyalgia do not do well in the cold. However, as a country, it has always struck me as being a fascinating place with the full gamut from wilderness to up-to-date cities.
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Hi Kel – I’m really leaning towards there – if we eventually get to go somewhere. I do still think Oz sounds awesome but realistically it’s too far away from family.
LOL Brett – It will be weird for you not having snow. Pubs are also becoming more scarce in the UK now – we tend to have a lot of bars but not the traditional pubs anymore.
Hi Barbara – I love mooses too. But I guess i’m lucky – I don’t have all that warm weather to tempt me to stay.
LOL James – this isn’t a post to bash Canada – but I was betting you would think that. I’m hoping we might get in there and we will have more chance, if I manage to keep some of the lazy people out.
I’m not good enough at French to live in Montreal, but you can bet your ass I’m going to get good when I move there and I’ll be coming over to see you for a beer or ten.
I am definitely attracted by all the positives you mentioned. Another thing I heard – there isn’t the ageism there when it comes to jobs. Over here is a different story – especially once you get past 40 – it’s ridiculous.
Another thing was stuff you mentioned a while ago about the snow. Here, we’re not equipped for snowy weather but there, you have heaps of stuff to do like skiing, snowboarding, tubing and outdoor skating.
And you have huge national parks with bears and moose and wolves. We have national parks here – but nothing on that scale. Can you tell I like the outdoors?
Hi Dot – I’m still in little old England but the idea of Canada appeals.
Fibromalgia is a lot like PTSD in many ways but the physical effects seem far worse for fibromalgia sufferers. I would love to research it more though – from speaking to people it seems that the two problems are so similar.
But what I’ve noticed most is that many PTSD sufferers seem to have been affected by a one off traumatic event, whereas those with fibromalgia have suffered several. And I wonder if some fibromaligia sufferers remember everything they’ve gone through.
Like you, I like the fact that in many places in Canada, you can be in the city but so close to the wilderness.
“4 distinct seasons: We like all of them”
(That’s not what you said on Twitter in February James! Just kidding…)
Re: being in the city and the wilderness – there’s a pretty good chance you *will* be in the city, unless you are either self-employed like James or work for one of the declining number of companies that are out in the boondocks like I do.
Our last census found over 90 percent of us live within 50 km of the Canada-US border.
And since Canada is a VERY large country, you can expect to drive to get to places.
This may not bother you at first… but if you choose to live in Toronto, for instance, having to sit in traffic for 4 hours on a Friday afternoon to get out to “the country” will not be your favourite thing.
If it is the wilderness you crave, you may want to think about British Columbia or Alberta, perhaps – lots of mountains out there.
Eastern Ontario (where Friar and I live) is pretty flat, and if you want the ocean, you’re two days drive from it.
Don’t take what I’ve said to be a slam on Canada – just an honest description of some parts of it, from my point of view of course.
I do like it, believe me. But would I say there’s no other place I’d rather live? I can’t say that, as I’ve seen some pretty nice places. There’s something in the world for everyone, I guess
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LOL Brett – You’re not going to believe this but my youngest was saying before that when she’s finished college, she wants to go and work in Australia for a year.
I think she still has her heart set on there – being a kid she doesn’t see the distance as such a problem. That said, she also likes the idea of all the skating and skiing.
I live in a small village right now, so I’d like to live in the outskirts of a city with decent access to the country. But a lot of places in the GTA are a long commute, although Burlington and Dundas sound ok.
Guelph/Waterloo area appeals – because they’re smaller cities with good schools and Uni’s and hopefully still plenty of work. Have you been to either of them?
Hi Cath: When I worked for the Panama Canal we would get seven weeks of paid leave–which included sick days–and the labor system was based on the US Civil Service. So if you want to live in the US and get lots of days off, work for the government.
Canada does sound like a lot of work, with all of that snow shovelling.
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Hey, good for her! When you’re young, distance is meaningless, yes.
Burlington and Dundas are both very nice (I worked in Burlington for about 5 years, and I lived on the outskirts of Dundas for 6 years.)
Guelph and Waterloo are also very nice, I know them well. You are right, there are lots of smaller places in the GTA if you know where to look.
Last time I lived and worked down there, I worked in Hamilton and lived in Brantford. My friend (Eyeteaguy) lives and works in Brantford still and he likes it, as far as I know.
I was going to buy a house in Dunnville, down on Lake Erie, but then the company I worked for in Hamilton stopped paying me…
Too bad, in retrospect. The houses were reasonably priced, and the town was only 10,000 people – very quaint, 100 year old oak trees on the streets.
You’ve figured out the secret, I think – find a smaller centre and you’ll be quite happy.
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HI Catherine,
I see you still have moving on your mind.
From what I’ve seen of Canada (we drove through there when we left Alaska, and I’ve also visited the Vancouver area) it’s a beautiful place. Like James said, it offers a lot to it’s citizens, so that’s a real plus.
I’ve lived where there are severe winters, but I think you just get used to it. In fact, In our area we do get some snow, and for those who are bothered by it, they just head south for the winter and get away from it all. (We call them “snow birds”)
So, that would be another option for you , too.
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Hi Brett – I just checked out Dunnville. It looks very nice but Google maps is saying an hour drive from Hamilton.
Brantford is another place I have looked at. Property prices seem more reasonable there and it’s not too far from Hamilton and Burlington. Apparently the guy who invented the telephone lived there.
I also looked at St Thomas near London – houses seem v cheap in that area for what you get. But in a survey I looked at, the area seems to have a higher rate of unemployment.
What would we do without the Internet? I wouldn’t be able to look up half these places. And Google Maps is awesome.
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Honestly, Cath. Canada wasn’t on my top list at all, as I dislike the extreme cool weather there. Instead, I’m more into the Scandinavia countries or Australia, if I choose to immigrate…
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Hi Cath. Shovelling snow has become a novelty for me now. I escaped the northern Ontario winters year ago. Last winter though after one of those unusual Vancouver snowstorms, I found myself shovelling an elderly friend’s driveway. Took over two hours. He had let the snow pile up and I basically dug him and his van out. I enjoyed it, but I think that was more because I was helping someone out, rather than shovelling snow. There are pros and cons to living anywhere. The cold is most important for me to avoid.
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Wow Mare – That is a lot of time off. It sounds like it’s definitely worth working for the government if you live in the US. I’ve been researching different sectors in Canada and on average the government seems to pay more than anyone else.
Hi Barbara – I’m loving doing all the research – there are so many awesome places to live.
I know you’ve mentioned the snow before, as it enables your business to diversify in the winter.
The idea of being a snowbird is appealing. I heard that Stephen King leaves New England for Florida in the winter.
Hi Wilson – There are some great places to live in Scandinavia but I think I would struggle with the language barrier. Australia is a great place but I worry that it’s a little too far away from family.
Hi Davina – So you do get snow in Vancouver sometimes then.
I’m betting that northern Ontario is far more snowy than southern Ontario right? Friar wrote about northern Ontario recently and it seems like you can drive for a long time before you come to another town. I think I would feel isolated there.
I guess, Canada sounds more like fun, yet it’s indeed a hard work to immigrate & survive in conditions you ain’t accustomed to. But I won’t wanna built the impression of having success & great life without hard work any way! So, whatever the choice others make, there is no point discriminating against the immigration in country with tough work & weather conditions.
Hi Chris – exactly, if it was easy, it wouldn’t be fun.
I’m laughing at some of the comments, heheheh – *extreme* cold! *severe* weather! Avoid at all costs! It’s funny how people build up an image of Canada sometimes.
Dudes… Yeah, it gets chilly but other people live where there are freakin’ HURRICANES, man! The stuff that kills people, you know? Tornadoes! Ripping up HOUSES! 95C plus temperatures! We don’t have that!!! And deadly, poisonous snakes and scorpions and spiders! You know, stuff that KILLS you!!!!! None here!
Hee hee – and I bet now some people are going, “What. It’s just a hurricane, James. Batten down the hatches and ride it out.” Well, put on a decent coat and stay warm. We do have stores that sell them, you know.
As for the City/Nature thing, you don’t have to work in a company and live in a big city. Most people I know don’t. Many commute to cities, yes, but most people I know work in small businesses and live in small downs (ie, population 5k or less).
Ontario and Quebec may be very different for that. Quebec is dotted with tiny, quaint towns and nature abounds. Mountains, lakes, stunning views… Ontario is very pretty too, like Brett mentioned, I believe, but it’s far more industrialized, with larger cities clumped together.
It truly depends where you go. The whole country is different from end to end.
Snowbirds is cool, too. We have a TON of those.
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@Cath,
Yes, Dunnville is about an hour out of Hamilton – but for me, it wasn’t a big deal as it is a nice drive through the country with no traffic i.e. relaxing.
You’re often going to have a one hour drive in the GTA anyway but in traffic…
Paris is another nice little town just outside of Brantford (and yes, Alexander Graham Bell did live in Brantford, there’s a museum and everything there – plus, if you were a hockey fan, well, Wayne Gretzky is from there – his dad still lives there too, nice guy, met him at the mall…)
St. Thomas – also very nice. Lots of choice.
As James says, not everyone lives in large cities (though it seems to be going that way – like him, most of the folks I know don’t live in big cities, but I guess that’s because I don’t either!)
I suppose the trick is either work for yourself, look for a company in a small town, or find a company that will let you telecommute (there are some if you look).
@James,
You lucky buggers got all of the nice mountains in our neck of the woods!!!
I figure the glaciers pushed all of the nice hills and good soil across the Ottawa River. If I look out across from my town, I see nice rolling hills and green green green
Plus, as you say, everyone’s clumped together around the Golden Horseshoe.
However (to say something nice about good old flat Ontario) if you head north to Superior you’re going to find some really great stuff (just ask Friar).
I suppose I can often sound down on the large size of the place because any drive with me has four noisy kids in the back of the van
but someday they’ll grow up!
@Cath again – the main thing is, you’ve got choice. Lots of different stuff here.
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Well…. having been born and raised in Canada, and spent my first 26 years there it was a little work sometimes.
I loved snow shoveling, tho.
And I guess I’m not too lazy as I’m looking forward to moving back there, which is our plan.
I think dealing with this Texas heat is WORK! Always trying to be cool and comfortable. Give me a snow suit and boots good for 40 below, please and thanks, and I’ll be happy.
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I was the only one in my family born in the USA – everyone else was Canadian, UK, Australian.
I seriously considered moving my mum back to Canada to die – instead re-arranged our lives to move her in with us and create the Canadian experience in our own home.
I have been in every Provence and Canada and the people are what make it so beautiful to me.
Although I live near Seattle, which is just 3 hours to Canada we have very mild weather and I love being on the water. Except for healthcare, I feel like I live in the best of both worlds.
This was a fun post to read and loved everyone’s comments.
Finding work is important.
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James – I read that they have black widow spiders in some parts of Canada & a species of rattlesnake in Ontario. But I’m betting they’re both easier to avoid than hurricanes.
Have just been looking at Quebec – it is lovely but I’m not yet fluent enough in French (gonna be practising tho).
Thanks Brett – Have checked out Paris and it also looks lovely.
Hi Jannie – Stuart is asking if you will move next door to us and shovel our snow too. Where in Canada are you from?
Hi Patricia – Seattle looks lovely. The healthcare system in Canada seems far better than in the US. I think they have to pay full price for their medication. In the UK, ours is subsidised – we only pay a fixed amount. Hopefully, we will be able to get ours from an online pharmacy or something.
Prescription medication is government subsidized. Very often, it’s free. Some types of medication aren’t (luxury stuff, brand name…) but are at reduced prices in many cases.
And spiders?! I’m happy to say it’s certainly NOT something we usually have. See: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090723/black_widow_090723/20090723/
Kind of an arachnoid accident
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You are right about both – I’ve never seen a black widow, but in 2003 I found a baby Massasauga rattlesnake in the building where I was working.
The markings looked rather unusual, and it was acting aggressively (coiled up and so on).
It was pretty cute, too small to have a rattle.
I caught it in a cardboard box and put it outside in the grass (it was August), then went on the internet to find out where to report it.
This was in Hamilton, in a fairly built up area actually (an industrial park).
I warned everyone to be careful out in the shop, in case momma was still around…
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Thanks James – That is good to know. I had already been looking up the prices of meds we use – just incase. And it sounds like there isn’t as many black widow spiders in Ontario as I thought.
Hi Brett – You are braver than me – I would have ran a mile, no matter how small it was.
Hmm, if you were to ask my wife, she’d probably tell you I’m too lazy to live in Texas … lol, I’d die in Canada.
Seriously though, I’ve often thought that Canada would be an interesting place to live. It’s just a shame that it’s so darn cold. I’m am seriously not a fan of winter. Being a military brat, we were lucky enough to mostly live warm places. The 7 years I spent in England were the coldest place I was growing up … but even that wasn’t bad.
Todd
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LMAO Todd. If you were cold in the UK, you would freeze your ass off in Canada.
Did you live in military bases over here too? Where were you based? My ex used to be in the forces in the UK, so I’ve lived in some too. A neighbour of mine in Scotland was on a one year exchange from San Diego. I thought she was crazy to give up Calfornia for Scotland.
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Hi Cath,
I lived in England twice. The first time, when my dad was stationed at RAF Mildenhall … I actually graduated from high school at Lakenheath. Then a few years later, in the early 90s, after I’d joined the Air Force myself, I was stationed at RAF Alconbury. I drove right past John Major’s house on my way to work every day.
It’s been so long since I was last in the UK, I’m sure it’s totally different by now. None-the-less, I definitely wouldn’t mind visiting again some day.
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